kim davis and the pope

The news that Pope Francis had a secret meeting with Kim Davis on September 24th sent some hearts sinking, while others soared with joy. The possible political ramifications are undeniable. Kim Davis, whom David Gibson described as an “icon of the culture wars”, is the Kentucky clerk who refused to issue marriage licenses for gay couples. A conservative Christian, she believes that the new law of the land conflicts with God’s law. Her supporters are already using the event as a papal affirmation of their cause.

My heart was one of the sinking ones when I read this news. I keep telling myself that Pope Francis is only human. It is impossible to address all the issues, and please all people all the time. I need to focus on the good news that he is spreading. But, the elephants in the room seem to be growing each day, threatening to squash the good news with that nasty stuff that make elephants a poor house pet.

There were two other groaner moments for many Catholics during the papal visit. The first was the clumsy and insensitive addresses by Francis to priests and bishops regarding the sexual abuse crisis. (Mary Gail Frawley-O’Dea, a psychologist who has been working with sexual abuse survivors for 30 years, wrote an insightful article for NCR on this issue.)

The second moment was on the plane trip back to Rome, when Pope Francis reiterated that women’s ordination would never take place because John Paul II said so. Many theologians have discounted the reasoning used by both John Paul II and then Cardinal Ratzinger for declaring all discussion on the topic closed for all time.

And, now we hear of a private meeting with a woman whose very public actions have deepened the ideological divisions surrounding the legalizing of same sex marriage.

Many of us would have loved a private meeting with Pope Francis, so there is perhaps more than a little envy and anger. Why her? Why now? How about all the women and men in the USA who have tirelessly promoted social justice for decades? Wouldn’t they be more deserving of a papal audience? OK, so Jesus hung around folks that infuriated his followers too.

In his address to the American bishops, Francis stressed the need for dialogue.

Dialogue is our method…dialogue among yourselves, dialogue in your presbyterates, dialogue with lay persons, dialogue with families, dialogue with society.

Perhaps this meeting was simply about dialogue? Perhaps the pope was curious to find out more about this person who was making headlines in the USA as a conscientious objector?

I try to promote dialogue through this blog. And, yet, I admit that there are many people in this world that I would avoid talking to at all cost. Talking dialogue is much easier than doing dialogue.

Kim Davis and I do not share the same views on same sex marriage. I admit to having preconceived notions of her as a right-wing Christian who views the world through the black and white prism of religious fundamentalism. Would I willingly sit in a room with her to discuss the issue? Would I willingly send her an invitation, or accept an invitation if it was given to me? This is the challenge for me.

Pope Francis does not shy away from challenging dialogue. He knows that there will be many a battle in the upcoming Synod on the Family. The concept of dialogue is foreign to those bishops used to an autocratic style of leadership in their dioceses. Steering them to seek common ground and consensus will not be an easy task. And, yet, dialogue they must.

The details surrounding the meeting between the pope and Kim Davis are still vague. The Vatican has declined to comment. James Martin, SJ wrote a rational and reasonable article titled The Pope and Kim Davis: Seven Points to Keep in Mind. He reminds us that the pope visits with many people each day. Francis gives rosaries to many. He gives encouraging words and blessings to many. But, a papal blessing does not connote affirmation or validation of the work of that person. In classic Fr. Martin style, he concludes,

Meeting with the pope is a great honor, but it does not betoken a blanket blessing on “everything” one does. Not to put too fine a point on it, but Pope Francis also met Mark Wahlberg, and that does not mean that he liked “Ted.”

colbert, dolan, martin, faith and humor continued…

Despite the media black-out for the Stephen Colbert-Cardinal Dolan event at Fordham University, the National Catholic Reporter was able to put together the following “Storify account of the night, using tweets, Facebook posts and other social media sources to recount the conversation.” Check it out for a wonderful chuckle and a feel good read. As is mentioned, this is the new evangelization at its best!:-)

Dolan and Colbert talk about faith, humor at Fordham | National Catholic Reporter.

colbert, dolan, martin, faith and humor

by Fordham student Tim Luecke

I’m a huge fan of Stephen Colbert. My evenings usually end watching Jon Stewart on the Daily Show, and The Colbert Report. It took me awhile to understand Colbert’s humor. Was he a Democrat or a Republican? A liberal or a conservative? Of course, his brilliance is grounded in his ability to carefully formulate a fanatical conservative, Republican persona while revealing the absurdity of embracing these same values. And, he’s a Catholic. A very funny Catholic, who can find humor in his faith while remaining proudly faithful.

Recently I became a fan of James Martin, SJ. The reason for my admiration was his book Between Heaven and Mirth: Why Joy, Humor and Laughter are at the Heart of Spiritual Life. I have read other books since, and follow Martin on Twitter. As a contributing editor for America magazine, his tweets are timely, thoughtful and inspirational. He has that much needed balance between intelligence, humor and well grounded spirituality so needed these days.

While I have read much about the humor of Cardinal Timothy Dolan, I must admit that my feelings have been biased with his seeming need to be front and center on the political front in the US.

On Friday, Stephen Colbert and Cardinal Dolan were onstage together at Fordham University in front of a cheering crowd of 3,000. James Martin, SJ was the organizer and moderator for the evening. According to an article in the New York Times,

The evening was billed as an opportunity to hear two Catholic celebrities discuss how joy and humor infuse their spiritual lives. They both delivered, with surprises and zingers that began the moment the two walked onstage. Mr. Colbert went to shake Cardinal Dolan’s hand, but the cardinal took Mr. Colbert’s hand and kissed it — a disarming role reversal for a big prelate with a big job and a big ring.

Cardinal Dolan was introduced as a man who might one day be elected pope, to which he said, “If I am elected pope, which is probably the greatest gag all evening, I’ll be Stephen III.”

Sadly, I can’t find any videos online of the event. Apparently it wasn’t broadcasted or recorded to allow for more freedom of questions and responses. To bad. In these days of incredibly stupid, anti-religious videos inciting hatred and violence around the world, we need examples of faith that balance commitment with light hearted joy. We need a few chuckles.

I’ll be tuning in to The Colbert Report tonight. Hopefully Stephen will have some thoughts. 🙂